Modifier Startup Key detection

Fri Feb 28 11:40:06 UTC 2025

And now I’m told by the Venerable Kelly B that there are other commands:

shift()
alt()
ctrl()
cmd()

I should have tried those of course.  It would appear the #modifiers are only set by events, possibly from buttons/menus etc.

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I didn’t know about the shift() function, so thank you Stefan and others who have responded.

If shift()|#ALT|#SHIFT|#CTRL|#COMMAND
OK message Test (Icon) {Shift : [#SHIFT]// //Function : [shift()]// //CMND : [#COMMAND]// //CTRL : [#CTRL]}
End If

This is on line 2 of the Startup_Task.$construct method.  The only key that is tested and is trapped is the SHIFT key, and only by using the shift() function.

The #ALT key stops it all, it just opens the lib. The other modifiers are not detected on a development version on OSX it seems.

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Hi Mike

To be precise, the way I’m testing is using the shift() function

HTH,

Stefan

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Hi Mike

I’m using the SHIFT key when starting up to do go into a special configuration mode, this works for me on Windows and macOS

HTH,

Stefan

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Hello All,

When you startup Omnis, with the ALT/OPTION key pressed, the startup folder libs do open, but the STARTUPTASK does not run.

Is there a way of trapping another key press by a user that we can trap and then decide what to do, but still runs the code as usual? The very old Omnis 3 had a key combo that reset the Byte Range Record Locking on a multi user DF1 many moons ago, and this is the sort of thing I need now.

A key combo that if pressed, we could reset our system, etc.

Thanks

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