ODPP 11.0 to 11.1 Upgrade

[josh.luchies at royalhomes.com]

Hi Doug,

 

Yeah, we have only internal users and we use Doug K’s auto updater, but it only handles the library changes, not Omnis version changes.  I did get a response from Omnis Sales that technically both numbers are valid for a short while during a transition period.  It’s my first time doing an ODPP upgrade and I thought Omnis might handle it differently than paid upgrades.

 

Josh Luchies

IT Administrator

Royal Homes Limited

Phone: 519 357 2606 ext 245

 

From: Doug Easterbrook <doug at artsman.com> 
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 11:13 AM
To: OmnisDev List - English <omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com>
Subject: Re: ODPP 11.0 to 11.1 Upgrade

 

hi Josh:

 

We have an application deployment mechanism that is two fold.

*	library only upgrades - we pull down a compressed version of the library from our central servers and put that into the database.   If detected on application startup, we have a loader library that replaces the main library and then everybody is on the new version
*	full version upgrades where anything significant changed, like:

*	version of omnis
*	xcomp upgrades
*	licences
*	etc

 

In the case of the full version upgrade, we have an installer that a user can run to re-install our application.   We need one of those in the first place so we can install our application on a fresh workstation, so it is not a hardship to build it.

 

in the full upgrade scenario, the general gist of actions is:

*	check our server for possible existence of new installer with new stuff in it
*	if yes

*	check for existence of installer.exe. (or installer.pkg if its a mac)
*	if not exists

*	use background http worker to download it as  installer.tmp into a temporary directory
*	when the download is finishes, we rename it installer.exe (or installer.pkg)

*	this action leaves an installer.xxx ready to install, but dormant on the machine

*	Next time user starts our app, we notice that  there is an installer.exe or installer.pkg

*	so we launch the installer and quit our app

*	User gets brand new install 

 

The brand new install is anything like an ODPP upgrade.  we  put the serial.txt with the new serial number in the first run install and off it goes.

 

I assume, recognizing the name of the company, that you only have internal users.        That means you’d get a multi user serial number that you can deploy to anybody.

 

 

 

 

I refinement on the above option is new offering from omnis called ’Studio NOW’.       We are part of that in order to receive fixes to code omnis on an ongoing basis.  

The idea is that you:

*	get access to interim builds of omnis - that might fix crucial problems you have
*	the licence number is common to ALL versions of studio within the range (eg studio 11, 11.1, 11.xx)
*	so the main difference is that you don’t have to deploy the serial number, the old one should work.

 

we have not tried the serial number that crosses all omnis versions as we are comfortable with our current deployment approach at this time and have been using it for a decade or more.

 

 

If you are part of Royal Homes that I know of in the past, I believe you have a deployment mechanism built into your software.  I don’t know if it can handle the full deployment methodology.  

 

but thats how I’d go.

 

 

 

 

 


Doug Easterbrook

Arts Management Systems Ltd.

mailto:doug at artsman.com

http://www.artsman.com

Phone (403) 650-1978





On Aug 2, 2024, at 6:38 AM, Josh Luchies <josh.luchies at royalhomes.com <mailto:josh.luchies at royalhomes.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Everyone,

I'm wondering how those of you on ODPP handle the free version upgrades?  I've been told that the previous license gets revoked when it is upgraded to a new version license.  Does this mean that current installs of the previous version suddenly stop working or is there a transition period so all the installs can be updated? With the paid license upgrades, both licenses are valid for a period of time (I haven't had any issues with Omnis asking for a license) until I get all the previous versions upgraded.

Thanks,

-- 
Josh Luchies
IT Administrator
Royal Homes Limited
Phone: 519 357 2606 ext 245

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