Emailing via Outlook from O$6.1.2

Thu May 12 13:41:09 UTC 2022

iCloud has an Smtp server access… I use it from omnis

The SMTP server in that case is me.com <http://me.com/>. I can give the exact server string if wanted. 

And with GMAIL be specific.. they have been threatening to take away "Less secure apps" access for a long time. That is what may be happening. This is because they have a setting which allows less secure apps, which is Omnis, to send mail. Anybody could check this option and send away previously, but they threaten to close that down.

They do have another option, which acts in the same way, is setup in the same way, and that is called "App Specific Password".  If you make your GMAIL/GOOGLE account totally secure as they say you should, if you follow all their prompts to secure your account, your account will then get access to Google App Specific Passwords. They allow you to generate one. If you use this password in place of your usual account password, then you can send mail. 

I and some others on this list have done this with success. 

iCloud is exactly the same way.. you have to use Apple App Specific Passwords which the Apple website allows you to generate if you have an account with them. 

> On May 12, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Mike Matthews - Omnis via omnisdev-en <omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com> wrote:
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> Look at www.ionos.co.uk <http://www.ionos.co.uk/><http://www.ionos.co.uk <http://www.ionos.co.uk/>> or www.ionos.com <http://www.ionos.com/><http://www.ionos.com <http://www.ionos.com/>>, we use then sometime.
> 
> Mike Matthews
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> On 12 May 2022, at 12:04, Bill Richards <whizzybill at gmail.com <mailto:whizzybill at gmail.com><mailto:whizzybill at gmail.com <mailto:whizzybill at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> 
> Ho hum...
> 
> It turns out the client is not precisely using Outlook, they are using
> Webmail, which therefore does not have an SMTP server. It turns out that
> the reason the client needs the change is that gmail is apparently
> discontinuing 3rd-party application access to send mail.
> 
> Does anyone have a recommendation for an (ideally free) email provider that
> supports SMTP sending from Omnis (v.6)?
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Bill
> 
> On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 08:41, Philip Tulett <philip.tulett at pdq-networks.com <mailto:philip.tulett at pdq-networks.com><mailto:philip.tulett at pdq-networks.com <mailto:philip.tulett at pdq-networks.com>>>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> If all you want to do is SEND email via Outlook/Exchange Online's SMTP
> servers, you just need to change the smtp server address to
> smtp.office365.com:587 <http://smtp.office365.com:587/><http://smtp.office365.com:587 <http://smtp.office365.com:587/>> and ensure that you have the security option
> "starttls" set on the  SMTPSend command in Omnis.
> 
> Kind regards
> Philip
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: omnisdev-en <omnisdev-en-bounces at lists.omnis-dev.com <mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces at lists.omnis-dev.com><mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces at lists.omnis-dev.com <mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces at lists.omnis-dev.com>>> On Behalf Of
> Bill Richards
> Sent: 11 May 2022 19:59
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> Subject: Emailing via Outlook from O$6.1.2
> 
> Hi folks
> 
> I have a client with an application in v.6 that is currently emailing out
> via gmail just fine. They want to switch to Outlook. Firstly, is this
> possible and secondly does anyone know what settings are required on the
> server/client side and what code I need in Omnis?
> 
> Many thanks, in advance
> 
> 
> - Bill
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