SMTP Send to gmail in OS 10.2 on Mac OS Monterey

Mike Matthews - Omnis omnis at lineal.co.uk
Wed Jun 15 14:17:02 UTC 2022


Hello Andrew S,

When you setup the APP password, and then use it within an Omnis method, is there a 2FA call needed when you send an email?

Do you use the SMTPsend command, or are you using the OW3smtp object?

Thanks

Mike

On 15 Jun 2022, at 14:20, Andrew Stolarz <stolarz at gmail.com<mailto:stolarz at gmail.com>> wrote:

Mike / Andrew

Google recently discontinued  (I think it was June 1st) the use of "less
secure apps" when using a gmail address. Which is what everyone was doing
to have Omnis work with gmail. If you have a paid workspace account, I
believe they are giving a bit more time. Whoever is using this legacy
method with omnis should plan to discontinue it asap.

What you need to be doing now is enabling your gmail account with 2 factor
authentication, and then setting up an APP password. Here is a quick
article on how to do that.
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en

from within omnis, the outgoing mail server should be: smtp.gmail.com

If you are using SSL/TLS, you should use port 465.
If you are using StartTLS, you should use port 587.

For the password, you must use the APP password that you created and not
your gmail account password.



Andrew





On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 3:46 AM Mike Matthews - Omnis via omnisdev-en <
omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com> wrote:

Hello Andrew,

1 Are you saying the value of VFSMTPSERVER is smtp.gmail.com:587<
http://smtp.gmail.com:587> <http://smtp.gmail.com:587/>

try just using : smtp.gmail.com:587<http://smtp.gmail.com:587>

2 You also need to lower the security settings on that account in Gmail
world to allow this level of authentication.

3 Add a final parameter of 0 for Verify option for good measure.

Mike Matthews

Lineal Software Solutions
Commercial House, The Strand<x-apple-data-detectors://1/1> Barnstaple,
Devon, EX31 1EU<x-apple-data-detectors://1/1>

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On 15 Jun 2022, at 06:15, Andrew McVeigh <surfway at bigpond.com<mailto:
surfway at bigpond.com>> wrote:

Trying to get this working using the isecure parameter as 2 but getting
1207 wrong authentication errors. Have tried the username with and without
the @gmail.com, can login into gmail through Safari with the username and
password so I know that is correct

SMTPSend
(VFSMTPSERVER,EMFROM,EMTOLIST,EMSUBJECT,EMBODY,EMCC,,SPNAME,,,,SPSMTPUSER,SPSMTPPASSWORD,isecure)
Returns VERROR)

SMTP server is smtp.gmail.com:587<http://smtp.gmail.com:587> <
http://smtp.gmail.com:587/> as advised in gmail documents

Anyone got this working ?

Andrew McVeigh
Surfway Real Solutions
Phone 02 44412679 Mobile 0418428016

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On 15 Jun 2022, at 3:48 am, Andrew Stolarz <stolarz at gmail.com> wrote:

Terry,

You will need to run your commands via. Apple Script.

ie. Do $runapplescript()

here is a useful guide:

https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/LanguagesUtilities/Conceptual/MacAutomationScriptingGuide/CallCommandLineUtilities.html


We use it for all kinds of things and has been rock solid.


Andrew


On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 1:29 PM Terence Young <terry.young at journeymhc.org>
wrote:

Hi,

Is there a way to execue a terminal command from within Omnis on MacOsX.

Does anyone have an external to this?

terry


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