Setting up the App Server on Linux

Das Goravani goravanis at gmail.com
Sun Feb 6 00:10:21 UTC 2022


Andy,

Well that’s sad to hear. The app server is a simple program, it should have a simple install. On the Mac server it is so simple to install and use. Now I am prepared for it to be a bear under Linux. Yes, I have been warned. And I hear you about installing desktop environments on Linux. Doug makes it sound simple but Doug does stuff that is really advanced like it’s nothing.. yes, I am struggling with every little thing on this Linux server.. I do have an Omnis developer who is answering my questions, who has done what I am doing. I am making progress. Today I deployed the server, installed Webmin, installed Postgres and Nginx, did some setup on them, keeping careful cheat sheets about what I do so that I can re-do it for clients.. now after you spoke I must admit I’m not looking forward to the Omnis App Server install.

Do you use the App Server nowadays? My helping Omnis developer doesn’t use it, so I am needing input from elsewhere on how to install it. Where do I get the beginning commands from? I don’t remember seeing a Linux setup helper from Omnis. I saw that they had Windows and Macintosh, but not Linux, in their document on setting up the app server, if I remember rightly. 

For linux, for other apps, there is an "apt get appX" and the like.. it fetches it.. I have a feeling Omnis doesn’t have that.. that I will need to download it, somehow transfer that up onto the Debian server, somehow run it to decompress it, move it.. I don’t know..

Can you tell me how to get started on installing it.. initial method, commands, anything?

Thanks,

Das

> On Feb 5, 2022, at 5:44 PM, TBS <andyh at totallybrilliant.com> wrote:
> 
> Das
> 
> If you don’t already have a desktop installed, you will spend hours if not days likely trying to get a remote desktop going  !!!
> 
> Teamviewer is explicitly for sharing *desktop* environments yes (and I have mixed results with it under linux) - you already have an interface to the linux command line right ?
> 
> Again - installing the Omnis Linux server is likely to be a not-straightforward thing (whether from command line or desktop environment) - just want to prepare you for a world of pain !!!! Not trying to denigrate Omnis (or Debian) - just many years of hard fought experience battling with those two particular demons :) Omnis was never optimized for Linux (in my opinion) and although I have had various versions work under Linux - it has never ever been a simple path (as a relatively seasoned Linux user) - in Linux, every application has a bunch of ‘dependencies’ - or other apps that it needs to run properly. Omnis always seems to be missing essential dependencies, which no doubt are platform variable, but nonetheless make it a tough install…...
> 
> I don’t want to dampen your enthusiasm - but do please understand you are entering a wholly different world that is alien and unfriendly…..you have been warned :)
> 
> Andy Hilton
> Totally Brilliant Software Inc
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> On Feb 5, 2022, 4:12 PM -0500, Das Goravani <goravanis at gmail.com>, wrote:
>> 
>> Doug and Andy,
>> 
>> I hear Andy that all things Linux can be done from the command line. I surrender. Then Doug comes along and suggests one.
>> 
>> I wonder if TeamViewer works without an associated desktop software for Linux?
>> 
>> Doug, what do you think about what Andy said.. that all things linux can be installed from the command line? In my ignorance of that fact I thought I needed a desktop sharing software. Doug, do I need TeamViewer?
>> 
>> And on another note, how do you install the App Server on Linux (using the command line)? I’m going to be installing Nginx for Linux to be on top of it.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Das
>> 
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