Omnis 7 running on Server 2016 64bit

Mon Apr 11 15:32:52 UTC 2022

Its not clear why Martin hasn't already got a multi user licence, since 
he just took over an existing solution?

The multi single licences may not be a solution, as he mentioned using 
an RDS server?

regards
Phil Potter
Based in Chester in the UK.

On 11/04/2022 16:08, TBS wrote:
> In this case - and Mike going back to your pragmatic approach - if Martin bought 5 single licenses then (if Omnis agreed) one of us oldies with a 5 user O7 license number from the old days could donate it to Martin maybe ? I’m sure I’m not the only one with a bunch of those numbers around somewhere close by (not having been used for eons)
>
> Desperate times call for desperate measures :)
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> On Apr 11, 2022, 9:58 AM -0400, Mike Matthews - Omnis via omnisdev-en<omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com>, wrote:
>> Exactly. And by this time, those 07 licences will probably have been moved to Studio, but they might not…..
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>> Mike Matthews
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>> Lineal Software Solutions
>> Commercial House, The Strand<x-apple-data-detectors://1/1> Barnstaple, Devon, EX31 1EU<x-apple-data-detectors://1/1>
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>> omnis at lineal.co.uk<mailto:mike.matthews at lineal.co.uk>
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>> www.lineal.co.uk<http://www.lineal.co.uk/>
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>> www.sqlworks.co.uk<http://www.sqlworks.co/>
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>> On 11 Apr 2022, at 14:54, Doug Easterbrook <doug at artsman.com<mailto:doug at artsman.com>> wrote:
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>> hi Mike.
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>> Licensing is omnis has always been
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>> 1) 5 single users = one multi user for 5 users
>> 2) non transferable, non resalable.
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>> re #1: xx single user = one multi user
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>> that XX single user licences are the same as on multi use licence for XX users. In other words, if michael wants to buy 5 single user licences, then 5 different users can still access the same DF1 as long as they eac use different licences.
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>> the downside of single user licence is that it must be deployed to each user. user 1 gets licence 1, user 2 gets licence 2, etc. its not quite as convenient as the multi user licence from a deployment perspective.
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>> re #2 non transferable, non resalable
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>> if you upgrade a licence from omnis 5 to 7, or omnis 7 to studio 1 or 2 or 3, etc……. then the old ones are deemed non transferable, invalid, inactive, can’t be resold by the person who uses them.
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>> In other words, somebody upgrading their version of omnis are not, by licence, supposed make money be reselling their old licences that they no longer need or use.
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>> here’s the end user licence from the omnis web site.
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>> https://www.omnis.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Omnis_Software_EULA_REV_jan17.pdf
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>> Doug Easterbrook
>> Arts Management Systems Ltd.
>> mailto:doug at artsman.com
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>> On April 11, 2022, at 5:43 AM, Mike Matthews - Omnis via omnisdev-en <omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com<mailto:omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com>> wrote:
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>> Indeed he did. He wanted a 5 user concurrent licence, only single users now it seems from Omnis.
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>> Mike Matthews
>>
>> Lineal Software Solutions
>> Commercial House, The Strand<x-apple-data-detectors://1/1> Barnstaple, Devon, EX31 1EU<x-apple-data-detectors://1/1>
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>> omnis at lineal.co.uk<mailto:omnis at lineal.co.uk><mailto:mike.matthews at lineal.co.uk>
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>> www.lineal.co.uk<http://www.lineal.co.uk/><http://www.lineal.co.uk/>
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>> www.sqlworks.co.uk<http://www.sqlworks.co.uk/><http://www.sqlworks.co/>
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>> On 11 Apr 2022, at 13:41, Daniel Sananes <daniel.s at kopparbergs.se<mailto:daniel.s at kopparbergs.se><mailto:daniel.s at kopparbergs.se>> wrote:
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>> I thought Martin said they could sell single user licences.
>> 5 single user licenses is the same, almost, as a 5 multiuser license
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>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
>> Från: omnisdev-en <omnisdev-en-bounces at lists.omnis-dev.com<mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces at lists.omnis-dev.com><mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces at lists.omnis-dev.com>> För Mike Matthews - Omnis via omnisdev-en
>> Skickat: den 11 april 2022 14:37
>> Till: OmnisDev List - English <omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com<mailto:omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com><mailto:omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com>>
>> Kopia: Mike Matthews - Omnis <omnis at lineal.co.uk<mailto:omnis at lineal.co.uk><mailto:omnis at lineal.co.uk>>
>> Ämne: Re: Omnis 7 running on Server 2016 64bit
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>> ’Tis all in the detail me thinks. But I bet they are not transferrable either, standard EULA stuff.
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>> But if Omnis don’t want to sell any more of them, and why should they when the product needs to stop from their point of view, it does leave some users/developers in limbo sadly.
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>> A pragmatic approach to going forward is needed maybe?
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>> Hmmm….
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>> Mike Matthews
>>
>> Lineal Software Solutions
>> Commercial House, The Strand<x-apple-data-detectors://1/1> Barnstaple, Devon, EX31 1EU<x-apple-data-detectors://1/1>
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>> On 11 Apr 2022, at 13:31, Phil (OmnisList) <phil at pgpotter.co.uk<mailto:phil at pgpotter.co.uk>> wrote:
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>> Interesting...
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>> I guess you'd need to read the licence agreement.
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>> I suspect you are not authorised to resell a licence, as opposed to using one to sell your own application.
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>> regards
>> Phil Potter
>> Based in Chester in the UK.
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>> On 11/04/2022 13:09, Mike Matthews - Omnis via omnisdev-en wrote:
>> A good point here.
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>> Can users resell their old licences?
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>> Mike Matthews
>>
>> Lineal Software Solutions
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>> On 11 Apr 2022, at 13:01, Martin Obongita via omnisdev-en <omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com<mailto:omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ben,
>> I contact them about concurrent users with one single license number.Stephen said they do not have. So I thought, since they stopped supporting Omnis7, then probably there are resellers who still have those old multiuser licenses still in stock.
>> Rgds,
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>> On Monday, April 11, 2022, 02:43:22 PM GMT+3, Ben Butler <760.f563 at gmail.com<mailto:760.f563 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> I would do what you did and contact Omnis sales team, I would have thought Omnis Software are the only ones able to issue and sell Omnis serial numbers and licences....
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>> Ben
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>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022, 10:57 Martin Obongita via omnisdev-en, <omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com<mailto:omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com>> wrote:
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>> Hi Ben,I have inherited an Omnis 7 project.They need a single (one) license number for multi-concurrent users, say for 5 users.I have contacted Omnis, but they say they only have single license for each user.Where can I buy one?
>> Kind regards,Martin.
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>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022, 09:59:34 PM GMT+3, Ben Butler <760.f563 at gmail.com<mailto:760.f563 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Omnis 7 and Studio are fundamentally different products despite some similarities.
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>> Ben
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>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2022, 19:12 Martin Obongita via omnisdev-en, <omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com<mailto:omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com>> wrote:
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>> Hi Ben,Oh my! How is that so?Are there upgrades to the Omnis 7
>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022, 08:25:34 PM GMT+3, Ben Butler <760.f563 at gmail.com<mailto:760.f563 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Studio is OO mindset based, Omnis 7 isn't - it is procedural mindset.
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>> Ben
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>> On Thu 07/04/2022 18:17, Das Goravani wrote:
>> Just wanted to be another voice Martin saying that Omnis 7 is really different from Studio.
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>> With that said it IS OMNIS, so it does share a lot. Structure of code is different. For example you have to code event driven methods with older variables that Omnis 7 has in it, hash variables, like #xyz, you’ll have to learn those.
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