Use OAuth2 with Omnis 10.1?

[Andrew Stolarz]

We integrated with Amazon SES  (https://aws.amazon.com/ses/) many years
ago, and has been rock solid.

Price: 0.10/per 1000 emails. + 0.12 per GB of data.

Most of our emails are transactional based, so we rarely use any exta data.

We also have it setup so clients can add their own domain for sending (it
does require them to authenticate the domain via. a one time DNS entry).

We send a lot of emails....hundreds of thousands


It's very little effort to set up even for basic smtp sending.


Andrew


On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 6:24 PM Doug Easterbrook <doug at artsman.com> wrote:

> yes.  mailgun acts as your SMTP server for the purposes of your
> applicaiton .. and you can do smtp send
>
>
> I just looked at their price calculator, — it looks like they changed
> their terms a bit ..   it used to be 10,000 free per month and cheap after
> that.  now its is:
> • 5000 free emails per month for first three months,
> •.then pay for what you send.
>
> the pay for what you send is.  $0.80 per 1000 emails.     so if you end up
> paying under $1.00 per month for a decent eblast server… thats not bad.
>
>
>
> In the three years we’ve been encouraging customers over to it that have
> had problems … ours have gone away.   and I think Theatre Manager did
> something like 2,000,000 emails  one month with no problems.
>
>
>
> there are other services that purport to be similar to mailgun.   you can
> google looking for them.
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>
> we’ve just heard good thing about mail gun and have not been
> disappointed.         that do what they need to ensure deliverablity to all
> the other mail services out there - so they will handle the crap that
> happens sending to people in yahoo, gmail or 365 accounts.
>
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> https://www.mailgun.com/pricing/ <https://www.mailgun.com/pricing/>
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> Doug Easterbrook
> Arts Management Systems Ltd.
> mailto:doug at artsman.com
> http://www.artsman.com
> Phone (403) 650-1978
>
> > On December 18, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Das Goravani <goravanis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > My monthly amount of emails is very low.. its like a few per day.. so
> mailgun is like Google in that I could set them up as my relay host.. I
> dont know the terms.. it’s a type of proxy that you go through so that your
> mail gets delivered.. because I use Blind Carbon Copy to send to my mailing
> list, I send about 50 per email sometimes.. for a total of a couple
> thousands, this is rare.. only when I have an upgrade.. once every six
> months say.. do I do that.. otherwise the amount is really low.. so I could
> set them up as my relay host (dont know the term) and my mail would be
> delivered?  This is very good news.  When I set it up as gmail I only know
> I needed SOMEBODY to use.. any reliable mail outfit.. I didn’t know of
> any.. this may be just the thing for me.. then I could continue to use
> SMPTSend in Omnis.. and it would work.. this is really good news.
> >
> >> On Dec 18, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Doug Easterbrook <doug at artsman.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> hi Das.
> >>
> >> I don’t know how many emails you plan on sending monthly ….    this
> might be a solution for you  — mailgun.     (mailgun.com <
> http://mailgun.com/>)
> >>
> >> they allow 10,000 free emails per month and charge very little beyond
> that.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> we allow people to have their own mail services with our product.
>  The amount of time we spent trying to help with customers that chose gmail
> or office 365 (google/microsoft) was abysmal.     As you point out,. its
> truly frustrating they kind of stranglehold they have and the rules that
> they impose .   only xx emails ber minute , yy per day and zz per month,
> but only if you stand on your head and sing a song.
> >>
> >>
> >> in the end, way too much time supporting those kinds of companies that
> are using limited features to keep you tied within their orbit.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> so, when customers have issues, we just put them on mailgun.       our
> problems stop.   so do theirs.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Doug Easterbrook
> >> Arts Management Systems Ltd.
> >> mailto:doug at artsman.com
> >> http://www.artsman.com
> >> Phone (403) 650-1978
> >>
> >>> On December 18, 2020, at 9:32 AM, Das's <goravanis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I just want to send emails.. is there not a solution that is
> relatively simple?  I dont know WHY I had to set my google setting to Less
> Secure Apps.. I think it was because I have my own mail server and my
> emails weren’t getting through, so we had to set up Google as our proxy or
> whatever.. as if we’re sending from Google.. then my emails would get
> through otherwise ISP’s blocked them.. I think that’s what it was.. my God,
> what a mess.. you’d think you’d be able to send emails without all this
> fuss.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Phil (OmnisList) via omnisdev-en <
> omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Das,
> >>>>
> >>>> firstly note, OAuth is not Oauth2.
> >>>>
> >>>> As Mike says, not easily.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've done it previously externally in Python code, to google
> calendar, and now recently had to look at it against Xero.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not straight forward at first, but achievable.
> >>>>
> >>>> now in 10.2, there is an Oauth2 option in the OW3 set of functions...
> >>>>
> >>>> I believe that is what Mike used for his UK Govt tax website, and I
> intend to look into what is involved connecting to gmail, which Bob said
> they have done.
> >>>>
> >>>> It may be a resolution for other Oauth2 connections... but as for
> now, I have not looked at it at all.
> >>>>
> >>>> Oauth2 is the solution that Google for example will open a web page
> asking for permission to use such and such service...
> >>>> you receive some token back, which you can then use for your direct
> interaction with the service.
> >>>> That permission may last a long time, or a short time, and when it
> runs out, you have to log back in and regain permission.
> >>>>
> >>>> The google solution seemed to work well in Python, Xero less so!
> >>>>
> >>>> regards
> >>>> Phil Potter
> >>>> Based in Chester in the UK.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 18/12/2020 15:47, Das Goravani wrote:
> >>>>> How do you use OAuth?
> >>>>>
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