Printing to PDF

Wendy wizardcompserv at gmail.com
Tue Aug 14 10:42:53 EDT 2018 

I've cheated and got it work - in place of 'Test for file exists' I have put in a loop which now works!!!!

Kind regards
Wendy Osbaldestin
Wizard Computer Services
Tel:  01260271647
Mobile: 07740541021


-----Original Message-----
From: omnisdev-en [mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces at lists.omnis-dev.com] On Behalf Of Doug Easterbrook
Sent: 14 August 2018 15:25
To: OmnisDev List - English
Subject: Re: Printing to PDF

re microsoft’s print to PDF. .

easy answer.  make a new file name for each one and fill up a temp directory with files so that it overflows the hard drive.     Then delete the demp directory next time you run the application.






Doug Easterbrook
Arts Management Systems Ltd.
mailto:doug at artsman.com
http://www.artsman.com
Phone (403) 650-1978

> On Aug 14, 2018, at 7:08 AM, Wendy <wizardcompserv at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I would love to do that - but the owning company has a list of 
> allowable software and this is not on the list :=(
> 
> Your other solutions are definitely no goers
> 
> The customer I am doing the work for has tried and failed to persuade the owners that they need this software but head and wall spring to mind.
> 
> However I have got it working with Microsoft print to PDF  - except 
> being Microsoft it does not release the file  'Test if file exists' 
> brings back 'True' but when I copy it it copies a blank file
> 
> Kind regards
> Wendy Osbaldestin
> Wizard Computer Services
> Tel:  01260271647
> Mobile: 07740541021
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: omnisdev-en [mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces at lists.omnis-dev.com] On 
> Behalf Of Doug Easterbrook
> Sent: 14 August 2018 15:00
> To: OmnisDev List - English
> Subject: Re: Printing to PDF
> 
> my advice - you won’t like it, but its pragmatic.
> 
> 
> 
> tell the IT dept to get serious because this truly is a case of the tail wagging the dog.    i,e IT is telling the end that the end user can’t have software they love and want because IT does not like some aspect of it.
> 
> 
> so,in my view  IT has a choice:
> 
> 1)  They can spend many many thousands of dinero to pay you to find an alternative to make them happy (by the way they are paying, not the user).
> 
> OR
> 
> 
> 2)  or they can accept the solution as is, implemented by many venues 
> — and if they have a concern with the printer driver, tell them to 
> either
> 
> a) isolate the PDF generation on a machine segregated from the network 
> (so that they can be happy that the printer driver wont spread a 
> virus)
> b) run virus software to check the printer driver and the  install it
> 
> 
> OR
> 
> 
> 3) or you can tell them that the new PDF solution is a cloud service 
> and write your software to accept a file from them .. and then you 
> return the data in the way you used to…
> 
> and all your ‘cloud’ software does is break the data up into separate PDF’s using your existing code and ships the PDF’s back to them.
> 
> (for this solution , you can charge 50p for each creation of a PDF as a cloud surcharge — and you can make money on it).
> 
> 
> OR
> 
> 4) you can finally convert to studio so that you can use the PDF printing software from michael.    implicitly this means the omnis 7 version just got one more nail in the coffin as it relies on non-modern technology
> 
> 
> OR
> 
> 5) you say NO .. and walk away from the situation and let them scramble — make it IT’s responsibility to find the solution.     Sooner or later, the end user will yell at IT and will get their way.  Position yourself as not in this battle — don’t waste your time on stupid people.
> 
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> 
> 
> hope that helps.
> 
> 
> mostly  I prefer the approach telling IT people to get a grip on reality and to accept your entire product as a single complete solution.  They don’t get to hack your solution apart, unless they want to write it themselves.
> 
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> 
> of course —   you’d use nicer words when you talk to IT than I have, but you get the gist of it.    They are not going to pay you to waste your time, so why waste it.
> 
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> 
> Doug Easterbrook
> Arts Management Systems Ltd.
> mailto:doug at artsman.com
> http://www.artsman.com
> Phone (403) 650-1978
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2018, at 5:02 AM, Wendy <wizardcompserv at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ho ho ho ho about changing to mac's  It Omnis7 which will not work on modern macs anyway.
>> 
>> It all works fine with the Microsoft driver except it does not 
>> release the file and the 'test if file exists' comes back true so I 
>> am sending an empty file :-(
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Wendy Osbaldestin
>> Wizard Computer Services
>> Tel:  01260271647
>> Mobile: 07740541021
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: omnisdev-en [mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces at lists.omnis-dev.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Andrew McVeigh
>> Sent: 14 August 2018 12:55
>> To: OmnisDev List - English
>> Subject: Re: Printing to PDF
>> 
>> we do all of this with Win2PDF but again it’s another third party driver to install and needs a $ value company licence as well.
>> 
>> tell them to change to Mac’s lol!
>> 
>> the PDF driver is all free and doesn’t have to be installed
>> 
>> It would be great if Microsoft did provide the same functionality as 
>> Mac in this area
>> 
>> Andrew McVeigh
>> Surfway Real Solutions
>> Phone 02 44412679 Mobile 0418428016
>> www.surfway.com.au
>> www.berrarabeach.com.au
>> 
>> 
>> <http://www.surfway.com.au/>
>> <http://www.surfway.com.au/>
>>> On 13 Aug 2018, at 9:16 pm, Wendy <wizardcompserv at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> I am hoping that someone can help.
>>> 
>>> Currently I use PDF-Xchange which allows a print document to be sent 
>>> to a named file.
>>> 
>>> The process currently creates all the pdf documents and then sends 
>>> them out as emails.  There could be 100 or more documents in one run 
>>> and it is all done without the user having to do anything.
>>> 
>>> My customer wants to know if this can be done with Microsoft's Print 
>>> to PDF as their owning company will not allow them to install the 
>>> PF-Xchange driver :-(
>>> 
>>> Many thanks
>>> Wendy Osbaldestin
>>> Wizard Computer Services
>>> Tel:  01260271647
>>> Mobile: 07740541021
>>> 
>>> 
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