New Macs - Unzip Omnis

Wed Sep 27 09:29:43 EDT 2017

Does anyone know if the latest Brainy Data components are incompatible with
Mac OS 10.5.8?  (Owrite, Ospell2 and PDF Device)

I have been working with this "Packages" Installer software to setup for
updating xcomps.  My Mac development system is using OS 10.11.6 but my "User
Test" system that contains only the RT versions of our software is using OS
10.5.8.

The XCOMP files are being updated but they will not start when Omnis Starts.
I have been pulling my hair out wondering if I setup the installer wrong.
(Per my message yesterday where I thought the installed was corrupting the
files.)

Finally, I manually copied the files from Brainy Data's original zip files
to test them and found I am getting the same result.  They are working on my
Developments System but not the RT System.

Studio 4.3.2.1
Non Unicode

I did try to ask Brainy Data first but got a return message that they are
closed for a couple weeks.  I would appreciate it if anyone else might know
the answer to this.

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Michael Mantkowski
ClienTrax Software
1-614-875-2245
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-----Original Message-----
From: omnisdev-en [mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces at lists.omnis-dev.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Matthews
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:00 AM
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Subject: Re: New Macs - Unzip Omnis

I'll write it up and send over tomorrow for you.

Mike Matthews, Managing Director, Lineal Software Solutions Ltd

Apple Reseller, Microsoft Partner, SQLWorks Business Partner
phone: 01271 375999 <tel:01271%20375999> | web: lineal.co.uk
<http://www.lineal.co.uk/> | email: mike.matthews at lineal.co.uk
<mailto:mike.matthews at lineal.co.uk>

On 26 Sep 2017, at 23:10, Michael Mantkowski <michaelj at clientrax.com
<mailto:michaelj at clientrax.com>> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> 
> Yes, that is exactly what I am trying to do.
> 
> I am currently working on v4.
> 
> I am curious, in the past I tried to do what you are suggesting but was
not able to because Omnis Opens the files when it starts.  So trying to
delete the file did not work.
> 
> I would be curious if you would share the code snippet you did this with?
My application actually creates its open update library when it sees there
is a new version available allowing my application to essentially update
itself when the users starts it.  But it never worked with the XCOMP or
EXTERNAL files because I was using Omnis as the updater which opened the
files I wanted to replace.
> 
> Michael
> 
> *********************************************************************
> Michael Mantkowski
> ClienTrax Software
> 1-614-875-2245
> *********************************************************************
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: omnisdev-en [mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces at lists.omnis-dev.com 
> <mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces at lists.omnis-dev.com>] On Behalf Of Mike 
> Matthews
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 5:58 PM
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> <mailto:omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com>>
> Subject: Re: New Macs - Unzip Omnis
> 
> Ok, so reading back a bit, OSX and Studio what version?  I don't think it
matters.
> 
> I currently have done this by using the FileOps commands from the running
version of Studio.  You know where the comps path is using SYS() functions.
> 
> I move the current ones into a new folder called comps-disabled.  
> Then move the new ones into place.
> The restart Omnis.
> 
> This worked for v4, v5 and v6 so far, OSX and Windows.
> 
> The trick is not to replace a current loaded one, but you can move it
around while running.  So I move it out, put in the new one, and force the
user to restart our App.
> 
> This works for Externals as well.  Did I get the problem right now?
> 
> Mike
> 
> Mike Matthews, Managing Director, Lineal Software Solutions Ltd
> 
> Apple Reseller, Microsoft Partner, SQLWorks Business Partner
> phone: 01271 375999 | web: lineal.co.uk <http://lineal.co.uk/> 
> <http://www.lineal.co.uk/ <http://www.lineal.co.uk/>> | email: 
> mike.matthews at lineal.co.uk <mailto:mike.matthews at lineal.co.uk> 
> <mailto:mike.matthews at lineal.co.uk 
> <mailto:mike.matthews at lineal.co.uk>>
>> On 26 Sep 2017, at 22:51, Michael Mantkowski <michaelj at clientrax.com
<mailto:michaelj at clientrax.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> I think there is a misunderstanding.  I am trying to update an already
existing instillation.
>> 
>> Just trying to get a few new XCOMP file updates into the exiting OmnisRT.
>> 
>> *********************************************************************
>> Michael Mantkowski
>> ClienTrax Software
>> 1-614-875-2245
>> *********************************************************************
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: omnisdev-en [mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces at lists.omnis-dev.com 
>> <mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces at lists.omnis-dev.com>] On Behalf Of Mike 
>> Matthews
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 5:46 PM
>> To: OmnisDev List - English <omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com 
>> <mailto:omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com>>
>> Subject: Re: New Macs - Unzip Omnis
>> 
>> Michael,
>> 
>> You need to look at and understand the FirstRunInstall mechanism.  I
think thismighthelp you, the penny finally dropped for me the other day,
after a good sound ear bashing by Chris at Omnis Support.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mike Matthews, Managing Director, Lineal Software Solutions Ltd
>> 
>> Apple Reseller, Microsoft Partner, SQLWorks Business Partner
>> phone: 01271 375999 | web: lineal.co.uk <http://lineal.co.uk/> 
>> <http://www.lineal.co.uk/ <http://www.lineal.co.uk/>> |
>> email: mike.matthews at lineal.co.uk <mailto:mike.matthews at lineal.co.uk> 
>> <mailto:mike.matthews at lineal.co.uk 
>> <mailto:mike.matthews at lineal.co.uk>>
>>> On 26 Sep 2017, at 22:36, Michael Mantkowski <michaelj at clientrax.com
<mailto:michaelj at clientrax.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Alex,
>>> 
>>> That would not work because the xcomps reside within the OmnisRT.aps
file (package).  I don't want to replace the whole OmnisRT, just the three
xcomps the are inside it.
>>> 
>>> But maybe if I manually create the folders the represent the path?
>>> 
>>> I will try that. 
>>>>>  
>>>>> **************************************************
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