oBrowser -- Is there a demand for this?

Tue Mar 14 10:11:15 EDT 2017

Bruno, I understand that unix powers much of the web. However creating
python or PHP code on windows/osx and running them in the unix environment
is not a "bullet proof" as omnis, unfortunately. We have experienced cross
platform "pain" many times over with Omnis.

Andrew

On 14 March 2017 at 10:01, Bruno Del Sol <bruno.delsol at bydesign.fr> wrote:

>
> Le 14/03/2017 à 14:44, Andrew Stolarz a écrit :
>
>> The solutions we provide our market/customers, nobody wants to be on a
>> Linux server.
>>
>
> According to real life surveys 2/3 of web servers are unix variants, 1/3
> windows.
>
> Source https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/operating_system/all
>
> Everyone either wants OSX server or Windows, for the sake of
>> easy management etc.
>>
>> Nonetheless, in my opinion if you cant debug/develop in the Linux
>> environment, I don't see a huge benefit to deploy to a headless Linux
>> server.
>>
>
> Bob slides actually talks about headless Linux AND remote debugging, so
> ... they might have already heard you.
>
> Please, download the presentation if you want to know more.
>
>
>
>
>   WHY?  we support both OSX and windows clients, we have run into
>> issues countless times that something would work on OSX but not Windows
>> within our code.....as such we would not be able to solve it unless we
>> spun
>> up a windows machine with omnis dev.
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14 March 2017 at 04:54, Bruno Del Sol <bruno.delsol at bydesign.fr>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> We had an Omnis Software meeting last week in Paris, and Bob Whiting gave
>>> us a few insights on future versions. One of his "future enhancements"
>>> slide stated "Headless Linux Server Distribution: Remove dependency on
>>> X11". If I understood correctly, he also explained engineering is
>>> actually
>>> drafting the design of a rebooted linux dev version, but he didn't commit
>>> for that version anytime soon.
>>>
>>> You can download the materials from this meeting here :
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9czzc3kobbgcuto/AACEH126tmSJfzDMp
>>> QH2cWIoa?dl=0
>>>
>>> The Omnis Software slides (from Bob and Jason) are in english.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Regards
>>> Bruno
>>>
>>>
>>> By Design
>>> http://www.bydesign.fr
>>> Bruno Del Sol
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>>>
>>> Le 14/03/2017 à 01:15, Paul Mulroney a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hi $All,
>>>>
>>>> I'm with Andy and Bryan on this one - Linux support would be valuable to
>>>> us.  As new projects come up we're moving them to Studio 8, and
>>>> converting
>>>> to SQL at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> However, we run Linux servers, and we can't use the Omnis web options in
>>>> that environment.  Could there be a Linux version of Omnis that does NOT
>>>> require X Windows in one form or another?
>>>>
>>>> I notice that you can create "console" apps in Xojo for all platforms,
>>>> and these are intended for use as services - eg run your Xojo
>>>> console/web
>>>> app as a service.  There's no UI, so you need to consider how to log
>>>> events
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Paul.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14 Mar 2017, at 12:00 AM, omnisdev-en-request at lists.omnis-dev.com
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 16
>>>>> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 09:45:22 -0400
>>>>> From: Andy Hilton <andyh at totallybrilliant.com>
>>>>> To: OmnisDev List - English <omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: oBrowser -- Is there a demand for this?
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>>>>>
>>>>> I?m with Bryan on this one - adding Linux support would be a huge bonus
>>>>> - that said - even without Linux it is a massively important conceptual
>>>>> component here to keep the Omnis runtime a more relevant factor for my
>>>>> app??
>>>>>
>>>>> I say conceptual because I haven?t done anything with it as yet but
>>>>> from
>>>>> what I read it really is the piece I want to be using to add some
>>>>> stuff we
>>>>> now do out of Omnis - and this will allow us to tie it all back
>>>>> together??
>>>>>
>>>>> It?s that or possibly move further away from the Omnis app
>>>>> altogether?..which I don?t want to do if I can avoid it?..
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 13, 2017, at 12:31 AM, Vik Shah <Vik at Keys2Solutions.com.au>
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Listers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have sent a few emails on oBrowser, Quill, etc... to the list and
>>>>>> also to the guys at Omnis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my email exchanges with Omnis support I got the feeling that they
>>>>>> are at a ** tipping point ** for the engineers to decide if oBrowser
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> be just another component or do they actively invest into the oBrowser
>>>>>> technology and expand it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I?d like to ask the list if oBrowser is in use and if possible
>>>>>> share
>>>>>> your stories about it. I feel that oBrowser is quite a powerful
>>>>>> addition to
>>>>>> omnis studio and these are just some of the possibilities I can think
>>>>>> of to
>>>>>> bring into omnis without re-inventing the wheel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ? Leadtools Medical Image Viewer, PACS system, as well as many useful
>>>>>> Imaging apps https://www.leadtools.com/demos/html5
>>>>>> ? Customisable Ribbon toolbar http://ribbonjs.com/demos
>>>>>> ? Another text editor, https://www.tinymce.com
>>>>>> ? SIP client, https://www.doubango.org/sipml5/
>>>>>> ? Mapping https://openlayers.org/en/latest/examples/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These just a few of the things I can think of to bring into Omnis
>>>>>> Studio from the recent projects that I have worked upon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone else care to contribute here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vik Shah
>>>>>> Director
>>>>>> Keys2Solutions
>>>>>> AU: +61 411 493 495
>>>>>> SE: +46 21-495 01 05
>>>>>> US: +1 (415) 413 4172
>>>>>>
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