ODB Management on Mac OS

[Mike Matthews]

Wow, this company looks great and costs so little.  I like thick so I'll try the LaunchControl.

Mike

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> On 4 Nov 2016, at 16:53, Mirko Pepa <mirko.pepa at profile.ch> wrote:
> 
> Hello Reg
> 
> Sorry, I never tried it on Sierra. Most of my customers servers are still on older versions.
> 
> But I found this little program:
> 
> http://www.soma-zone.com/LaunchControl/
> 
> It looks as if we could start the odb with it.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mirko
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>> Am 04.11.16 um 07:44 schrieb Reg Paling <Reg.Paling at Lokanet.com>:
>> 
>> Hi Mirko,
>> 
>> Do these scripts work on macOS 10.12 Sierra?
>> 
>> Startup Items has been deprecated for quite some time, and the Omnis documentation now recommends using launchd.
>> https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPSystemStartup/Chapters/StartupItems.html
>> https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPSystemStartup/Chapters/CreatingLaunchdJobs.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/10000172i-SW7-BCIEDDBJ
>> 
>> I have been using launchd for some time now, but with each new release of macOS from 10.9 to 10.10 to 10.11 to 10.12, the percentage of bootstraps where the ODB starts up properly has become less and less.  For macOS versions 10.9 to 10.11, I managed to get away with placing a script in the Login Items, which would try once again if the ODB had not started up the first time, and that seemed to work mostly.  Now with macOS Sierra, the OBD only starts up about 40% of the time, which means that adding a second try only increases the reliability to 64%.  It looks like I am going to have to do a loop, retrying until it starts up properly. I do wish that Omnis Engineering would take a look at why it's so unreliable.  It's my guess that it must be failing silently when some needed resource is not available, rather than trying again until it gets it.
>> 
>> Omnis support recommends setting KeepAlive to true, but I don't want to do this, firstly because it will tend to mask any problems (users are still disconnected when it stops and restarts) and secondly because I want to be able to stop the ODB for backups.
>> 
>> If your scripts work OK on Sierra, then maybe I will consider using them, even though Apple make no guarantees about support of Startup Items in future versions of macOS.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Reg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4/11/16 7:31 am, Mirko Pepa wrote:
>>> Hi Thad
>>> 
>>> Here it is:
>>> 
>>> www.helper.ch/download/OmnisDatabridge.zip
>>> 
>>> Greetings
>>> 
>>> Mirko
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>>>> Am 03.11.16 um 19:47 schrieb Thad Bogert <thad at technosolver.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have any tools or thoughts on how to automate the ODB on the Mac to stop at night for a backup?  On a similar note, does anyone know if it is safe to make copies of data files while the ODB is running and no clients are connected?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Thad
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