Turn Omnis system read only?

Sat Aug 30 04:45:37 EDT 2014

I think as developers, we must differentiate between information and
application. Whereas the information built over the years definitely
belongs to the customer/client, the software application on the other hand
is not; unless they have paid for sole rights.

I normally apply Annual Software License and then an optional AMC (Annual
Maintenance Contract). If the client chooses not have an AMC in place then
they are subjected to Spot Billing whenever my services are required (and
in most cases end up being more costlier than having a AMC in place).

All software I design alert the user when the application license is about
to expire and if I do not receive the fee before expiry, the application
will resort to *Reports Only* mode (since we do agree that information does
belong to client) until such time the client pays up. Indeed this has
clients very disciplined and they pay up on time; always.....

Moh.

On 30 August 2014 10:37, <wizardcompserv at aol.com> wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> That is the same way I issue my software to customers - after all it is
> their information.
>
> In fact I have a customer who has not renewed their support for nearly 4
> years and is still using the software - but ...  if they want support or
> changes made they have to pay.
>
>
> Regards
> Wendy Osbaldestin
> Wizard Computer Services
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> Mobile: 07740541021
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Hilton <andyh at totallybrilliant.com>
> To: OmnisDev List - English <omnisdev-en at lists.omnis-dev.com>
> Sent: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:22
> Subject: Re: Turn Omnis system read only?
>
>
> To be honest it more probably depends on whether or not you ever issued
> any kind
> of 'licence' for your software !!
> I do (I am sure I copied it from somewhere else originally !!)
> And I know I feel a whole lot happier at least having something solid to
> fall
> back on......
>
> My deal is that users buy a licence in perpetuity (for ever) to be able to
> use
> my software - but that without a current support payment they simply get no
> additional help from me.......but once they have 'paid' for a license, they are
> entitled to carry on using it for as long as they wish (and as long as it
> works)
>
> Others do it differently !!!!!
>
> Andy
>
> On Aug 29, 2014, at 6:13 PM, Gavin Foster <omnislist at dataweaver.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I guess that in general legal principle, the data is theirs but the
> software
> isn't.
> >
> > So you can export all their data into flat files and remove the
> software. Then
> they can query the flat files however they wish!
> >
> > Or you can remove the software and:
> > a) charge them to use it temporarily when they need to or
> > b) charge for your time to query the data when they need it.
> >
> > i'm not saying that's how you would want to approach it but it's
> probably the
> legal starting point.
> >
> > Rgds
> > Gav
> >
> > On 29 Aug 2014, at 21:11, Geir Fjærli <omnis at sunshinedata.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Jock and Moh.
> >>
> >> I'll mention the reports only route to my client. Not sure if that is
> sufficient for the end user. (How much they can really demand when they are
> canceling their agreement is not for me to say, I haven't read it.)
> >>
> >> Geir :)
> >>
> >> 29. aug. 2014 kl. 17:15 skrev Jock Philip (jock at visionchips.com)
> <jock at visionchips.com>:
> >>
> >>> Hi Geir
> >>>
> >>> I used to have a read only library but all insert/edit/delete calls
> went
> through a central method and I just disabled those.  Looks like that
> doesn't
> help you though.
> >>>
> >>> Jock
> >>>
> >>>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>> Jock Philip       [jock at visionchips.com] Vision Chips, Inc.
> >>> 888.517.7779 x 3563
> >>> http://www.visionchips.com/
> >>>
> >>> Developers of OBserver OB/GYN Ultrasound Reporting and Image Archiving
> System
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: omnisdev-en-bounces at lists.omnis-dev.com [mailto:
> omnisdev-en-bounces at lists.omnis-dev.com]
> On Behalf Of Geir Fjærli
> >>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 3:01 AM
> >>> To: OmnisDev List - English
> >>> Subject: Turn Omnis system read only?
> >>>
> >>> This is good old Omnis 7 (classic) on Windows, using native datafiles.
> >>>
> >>> A client has a customer that want to stop paying maintenance on their
> app,
> to go to another system. They do however want the old system available for
> reference. But as they are no longer paying, they should be restricted from
> actively using the system.
> >>>
> >>> So the question is: Is there anything that can be done (without
> changing
> code) to stop them from updating the data file? I guess anything you set
> can be
> unset if you have admin privileges.
> >>>
> >>> Now I may be able to stop them in a centrally called procedure,
> luckily one
> is called for most edits and inserts. Then I need to stop some other
> activities
> too.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone done something like this on a native Omnis app?
> >>>
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