Nginx and apache

[CLIFFORD ILKAY]

On 12/19/2013 02:37 PM, Doug Easterbrook wrote:
> hi Clifford et al.
>
> the short answer to your question is that w've put nginx as the front
facing web server/load balancer and, yes, we've proxied it through to
apache.   We still use an apache module to talk to a number of omnis web
client front ends. 
>
> We have found nginx faster, simpler to configure and, while apache is
good, it has hurt us a little bit on high volume servers where it can
crumble a bit.   I need to clarify this in that 99% of our customers are
using only apache and they never see an issue.  the odd one has -- and
thats when we put in nginx.    If/when we work on a way to replace our
apache load balancer for omnis -- then I surmise that we'll only use nginx.
>
> More specifically to the point, there is a lot of open source web
servers out there and we are striving to get to the place of leveraging
what others have already done in the open source world.
>
>
> I remember years ago when you told me -- go postgres.   how happy I am
to carry that banner.   Can't believe just how great that open source
project is as a repository for omnis data.


My current adventures, AngularJS, Node.js, and CouchDB. Very cool to see
automatic synchronization of disconnected and mobile devices. The
proliferation of mobile devices is a game changer.


>
> Linux -- wasn't too much of an adherent in the past, but I can see
where we have to pay attention to it for our server processes.  Sure
beats the pants off windows.  OSX, not nearly as much (and I'll get in
trouble for this one - so everybody please take it purely in the tongue
in cheek vein....)    OSX is the every-day-man's unix.  it lets
customers see and touch and get close to it ... and we are having great
success using mac mini's with SSD's as high volume servers for a lot of
clients.... and they don't break.  and my support team who are not IT
professionals are certainly able to help our customers.
>
>
> whats the point of all that...   cloud.    I do not have the same
affinity for cloud and do not see it as a panacea to end all.  It scares
the bejeebers out of me.  Target got hacked this week (not necessarily
cloud).  NSA sure likes it.   and even some of our competitors have been
badly bitten because they got exposed on cloud.

You have the illusion of security when you deploy locally. There is no
need to deploy on the cloud unless you have the kind of application that
if it goes down, there is a significant impact on the bottom line. Most
apps aren't like that and even the ones that are, they still go down
despite all best efforts. Stuff happens. :)


>
> that doesn't mean cloud is bad.   Cloud technology is actually really
sound and is worth paying attention to it.      I think that is part of
the message that Clifford is saying..      there is good stuff out there
and I agree with that.    We use a some of what the cloud technologists
use within our application.  and I'm sure glad we have.


"Cloud" is a meaningless buzzword unless we get clear on what we're
talking about. I consider cloud as PaaS (Platform as a Service).
Amazon's offerings, Microsoft Azure, RackSpace Cloud, which is based on
an open set of standards called OpenStack, though not as mature, are all
interesting and useful and qualify. Much of the rest of what people
refer to as "cloud" doesn't. There are things that you can't replicate
in those clouds without throwing stupid amounts of money at it.


>
> Lou is a big proponent of cloud computing.    Clifford is too.    I
love the technology -- just not where amazon can touch my data.

I don't have any concerns about Amazon having access to my data. What
are they going to do with it anyway? If you're worried about the NSA,
they can get your data no matter where it is. I don't imagine you're
storing too many state secrets in a theatre management application. ;)

-- 
Regards,

Clifford Ilkay

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