Transition of omnisdev Lists - Can we have a little more disclosure, please?

Reg Paling Reg.Paling at
Fri May 9 04:25:26 EDT 2008

Hi Clifford & David,

(This didn't come through during the transition, so this is a re-send to 
the new address.)

Quoting from a past message on this list: - David Ferri to Steve Farmer 
early June 2007:

>- What most people are unaware of is that Clifford, Fred and I *purchased* 
>the Omnis Underground, with our own money, in a deal suggested by Jerry and 
>Chris and brokered by David Lewis.  So to imply that there was some sort of 
>hostile takeover or hijacking is simply not the case.

The "Fred" refered to above is Fred Haislmeier.  I feel its important to have a clean break from anyone who has any claim to having "purchased" the list.

This is a very tiresome process!  I feel like Erin Brockovich! (only different looking).

At least we are probably near to the point where the stage management ends and the new group will be able to speak for themselves.

I prefer the strong leadership at who spoke for themselves from the start.

Regards, and with best wishes to team X,

> Dear Fellow Omnis Developers,
> We are pleased to announce that the lists have been transferred to 
> under the domain. No money changed 
> hands, and the new stewards are volunteers. The archives will be 
> transferred with the lists.  You will recognize the domain because 
> there is also a search engine for the archives there, now making the 
> lists and search engine at a convenient single domain.
> The list administrators are Mark Phillips, Brian O'Sullivan, Fred 
> Haislmaier and Dan Ridinger.  All four are well-known, 
> greatly-respected, long-standing members of the Omnis community with 
> impeccable credentials. They are all Omnis developers themselves and 
> have had exposure to many different facets of the Omnis world over 
> many years.  We are confident that they will make a great team and 
> honorable custodians of the lists for years to come.
> For those of you who don't know them, here is a short bio on each of 
> them.
> Mark Phillips - Mark is owner of Mophilly and Associates, based in San 
> Diego.  Many know him from his time at Raining Data and he has the 
> scars to prove it.
> Brian O'Sullivan - Brian is a Sr. Systems Specialist at DuPont and is 
> based in Philadelphia.  A former Blyth consultant, Brian now provides 
> technical guidance to a large team of of developers for DuPont 
> stretching from North America to China to the EU.
> Fred Haislmaier - Fred is a independent developer based in Virginia. 
> Many know him as a former list administrator and *he* has the scars to 
> prove it.
> Dan Ridinger - Dan is owner of FutureChalk, Inc. and is based in 
> Vancouver, Canada.  He is an independent developer and is also on the 
> staff of Simon Fraser University.  He often uses Omnis as examples in 
> his lectures.
> The lists will be transferred seamlessly, there is no need to 
> unsubscribe from or to subscribe to For 
> your convenience, all lists will be the same name as they were at 
>, i.e. omnisdev-en at, 
> omnisdev-de at, etc.  You will need to change your 
> filters if you use them for the lists and they are domain based.
> Mark, Brian, Fred and Dan will post their own welcome announcement 
> shortly.

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